I have been a client, strategy follower and autotrader at Collective2 for well over a decade. I have tried other approaches over the years, but Collective2 is simply the best platform of its kind for vetting and following alternative investment strategies with your own money, and for autotrading those strategies at your preferred broker.Over the years they have worked with regulators, improved functionality, streamlined user experiences, and I have been impressed by their ability to keep everything very reliable in a complex environment where money is on the line and where that is not an easy task.Whenever I have had questions or minor issues, their support has responded within seconds, or, at worst, minutes, to help me out. They also refreshingly allow their more technical staff to be involved in conversations with users to answer more technical questions quickly.As with any relatively open platform, there are certain things (in this case, strategies and trade leaders) that most clients/subscribers would be well-advised to avoid. This is akin to low quality posts in any online forum, but the difference here is that, yes, you could lose money. Because of that, I would recommend Collective2 to people who are willing to take responsibility for their own actions and choices and do their homework on which strategies they follow. For example, I wouldn't personally allocate my money to a strategy until I first at least had a message-based conversation with the trade leader, and made sure they had sufficient history and transparency in their methods such that I was comfortable with what I was getting. Far too often in the investing world, people will blame the platform, the strategy, their broker, or anything else they can find, in order to convince themselves it wasn't ultimately their own decisions that caused a loss.There are some excellent strategies with positive long term expectancy and low correlation to buy-and-hold market performance on Collective2, which is why I am still here after all these years and valuing its role in my investing life more than ever. This is typically expensive and hard to find in the investing world, and usually prohibitive to anyone who is not firmly in the "high net worth" category or higher. Collective2 offers this at an unmatched value and with easy, flexible implementation.I felt the need to write this since I see many reviews where a customer clearly joined, greedily rolled the dice by choosing to follow a questionable strategy with too much leverage trying for a "get rich quick" outcome, and then blamed the platform when it didn't work out for them. These reviews are simply not worth your consideration other than as a reminder that any tool can be used incorrectly if one is not qualified to use it.If you want a platform that will put you in a bubble with guardrails and tell you what to do, Collective2 is not for you. If you want an ability to access excellent strategies that provide top notch diversification benefits to a traditional investment portfolio in an environment that also happens to contain some not-so-excellent strategies, if you resist shooting yourself in the foot with short term over-leveraged greed, and are thoughtful about your decisions, then you will be thankful to be a member of Collective2.
They have issues with TOS, market data.In a recent incident, they randomly closed a position, did not revert for 2 days and later said "we apologize for the issue". Sir, the position was closed on a rally day at the bottom after waiting for many days. Their technical issues have affected my strategy. 1. My position was closed prematurely on C2 (and at loss on IBKR). 2. I could not get assistance on time 3. I was not able to reopen the closed position (due to no random leverage logic) 4. I had to purchase more shares on my IBKR violating the Trade your own strategy terms.My strategy has 55% YTD return at $40/month but there are no organic subs. C2 doesn't have enough subs and their high cost combined with technical issues and lack of support is not worth the price to pay.
I was solicited by C2 to leave a positive review which is really quite something considering I've been with them for over a year and am a net negative on my accounts and my sanity. Investment managers at C2 are notorious for having a few good months run while loading up subscribers and then blowing accounts. I'm intrigued by algo trading and copy trading, but this is not the way. I'm not running my own algos and copy traders and actually making money. Now waiting for my final C2 subscriptions to run out, but all but one has been taken off of real funds so I have something left to recover my Collective2 losses with!
Matthew Kline sent out an email, since I have been a member a long time, asking for a positive review, since there have been so many negative ones lately. BIG MISTAKE!, as any hope for Collective 2 is long gone. Investors are left to "figure out" which strategy managers are legitimate. In truth, you will be HARD PRESSED to find a strategy manager that will not leave you asking, WHY???!!!! I know a few. Very few. In finding them, I've tripped over absolute amateurs, some bordering on Snake Oil Salesmen, some who've bought bots to re-sell, who've blown up multiple accounts only to resurface later under a different name, to burn someone else's money. There seems to be no oversite, no vetting process. Matthew Kline knows exactly why people are unhappy, and I believe he has the power to fix it. There are secondary chatrooms that have been created by members to help each other, because negative comments on C2 are deleted! You are on your own. Unless you REALLY know how to evaluate risk, stay away from this company. Just find an edge, work it out in SIM mode and manage your own money. C2 will allow you to waste money on 10,000 turds in your hopes of finding one decent strategy.
I seriously considered the product and wanted to check it out. Spent hours--many hours-- researching the different trading systems and what they offered. All this time and effort culminated in making a simulated portfolio which I, at first, thought was a helpful feature. Without warning the entire thing was deleted after 60 days. When, in panic, I asked what happened I got the dry response that "simulated portfolios are automatically deleted after 60 days."Now I realize... yes, of course they are. This borders on fraud because it keeps anyone from being able to make a careful assessment of the long term performance of any of the trading programs. I now realize that this is actually the point of the auto delete. They prefer a customer to put tens of thousands of dollars at risk with only minimal information. I am no longer interested in Collective2. I immediately deleted my account.
Margins that make no sense just like other reviewer put. For high speed speculation, we use day trading margins not swing (initial margins). No way to adjust it. I think on their website, margin page they say SP is 6000, but when you begin adding it becomes 12000 margin. Barely any users. Feels like mostly just HFT firms using it to collect the data using free simulations or "broke customers" who thinks that with 500 they could get Tim Sykes super novas and get a lamborghini. Lots of fees and barely any benefit. No recommended. Funny they talk about super stars traders in response to comments. No kidding but with 14000 initial margins only fools would trade unless accounts loaded with 3mln equity lol the idea from c2 is to collect fees on resets while billing monthly fees.Interface is so bad. That it takes forever to place trades quickly. No real time data. Makes me wonder who developed all this dinosaur... and yet they expect to get paid "investors" where so called managers operate w 10min delay data and their Interface.. 1-1.5sec to place trades with stops vs 8 Seconds and let's say we are trading nasdaq shorting on breakout fail. By the time you type stop order and if it does actually break out... it's a complete mess.
Offers some very good traders that may get excellent future results if you stick it out long term and don’t adjust trades. Really need a very strong trading background knowledge to identify the select few top traders who use solid risk management on each trade or you will lose lots of money fast due to leverage. Some of the best consistently profitable traders are not even easy to find , you have to find them through other peoples accounts. Beware when traders email you to try their strategy it’s often a huge scam. Not all past results shown were done in real trades , they could’ve been falsely simulated for months, and once trader convinces you to sign up based on essentially fake past results, you’ll lose everything within a month when they over leverage on a real trade with your real money, and baghold losing trades due to poor risk management. Also some traders look real good with their past results but will blow up your account plus more, once you sign up to them, they are just using strategies that temporarily got lucky as held in one direction or also could have been falsely simulated, (not all real trades) and are not skilled, and then they end up losing it plus more. Beware any traders with no description or details about trader, and where there are multiple past failed strategies. Thats a red flag. I suggest stick to daytrader strategies or C2 star strategies and those with reviews especially positive reviews. Most of the swing traders that baghold are generally the biggest problem, or those using daily options, illiquid penny type stocks, or unrealistic forex trades , which I have witnessed them blow up accounts already plus more. Don’t trade with money you can’t afford to lose. I strongly suggest simulating a trader for a few months before using real money to see if their results are true and consistent, and if you can stomach drawdowns depending on the traders risk tolerance. You need a very large account size if you are going to trade multiple strategies to diversify.
I've been a customer on collective2 as a subscriber for about half a year before I decided to try being a trade leader also. I'm decently successful as a trader, so the thought of making extra money on top of trading sounded good! It worked out great. Everything is legit, I am paid for subscribers, and the collective2 system makes everything work.
"Collective2 is on the cutting edge of facilitating and connecting both managers and investors here in USA. Since it is a highly regulated space and there are few brokers that facilitate this connection with full compliance, Collective2 is super picky and rightfully so with vetting and bringing on any brokers. I am pleased to inform all that C2 always looks out for both their managers and investors during unforeseen changes. In early May 2022 one popular US broker terminated their affiliation with C2 and it affected me greatly as manager of a strategy and with clients attached to my strategy. The customer care at C2 was expeditious, friendly and all my questions were answered to my concerns and C2 refunded me my costs for the new month that had just started and for the services I was now not going to be able to benefit from. C2 looks out for their clients! You are in good hands with them. Peace
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